Remembering the ISIS Fangirls

A re-post from February 24, 2015 when it happened and an update

A couple of days ago three “straight A” teenage girls, two 15 and a 16 year old, in the U.K. boarded a plane at Gatwick and headed off to Turkey, indicating that they were on their way to Syria to join ISIS.

This has set off a round of breast beating among British liberals. How could this happen? Who is to blame?

Meanwhile British anti-terrorist squads and Turkish police are combing the Syrian border areas trying to save the young darlings.

All three girls left their homes at 8am on February 17 and met at Gatwick Airport, where they boarded a Turkish Airlines flight to Istanbul.

Nice. ISIS fan girls.

We can always blame Twitter.  One of the girls had over 90 Twitter connections with terrorist groups.  Twitter helped these girls connect with other gleeful fans of snuff-video beheading, cage-burning and the hobby sport of hurling gay men to their deaths from towers. Let’s blame Twitter.

“Some people must be wondering if the parents are to blame. They appeared on TV this week, some clutching teddy bears belonging to their little blossoms, presenting them as easily confused delicate ingenues. This differed, to my mind, from the cool-headed, elegantly pulled together, determined young women I’d watched the footage of on CCTV. Not silly kids wagging off school, but calm, considered, A-grade students who have researched their trip, found hundreds of pounds in funds, booked flights and headed towards earth’s closest vision of actual hell.”

The families are adamant that there were no signs that their daughters were plotting. Two of the fathers interviewed on British T.V. were holding the teddy bears of their little girls. One would like to ask what exactly was the turning point which drove the three teen-babies to rush off to join the killers in such a hurry that they forgot their stuffed toys. My mom and her KGB friends knew what I was doing at 15 before I did.

Of course, there’s a strong case to be made that fleeing abroad in search of Isis is simply a severe case of teen rebellion. I guess when they come home from a couple of years of aiding and abetting murder all will be forgiven? I wore a leather jacket like Marlon Brando and combed my hair like Elvis. And we thought we were bad.

“If the sight of gay men plummeting to their deaths excited you so much that you went and spent five years aiding and abetting the homophobic carnage, forgive me, but I don’t want to come across you in Bethnal Green Tesco Metro. I can’t imagine that time spent hanging out with horror-movie ghouls who hate Britain, gays, democracy, the rights of women and religious freedom will have done much good for your personal development.” So says Grace Dent, writing in the Independent.

So what is ISIS offering to entice these silly little girls? I mean, was it the beheadings? The crucifixion of Christians in Raqqa? The reports from Kobani of raped and mutilated six year old female corpses in the streets? The image of a submissive Jihadi bride to a big, strong executioner boy friend?

I recently read an in-depth coherent article on what ISIS is and what it offers some:

While in the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team”, author Graeme Wood argues that, on the contrary,  ISIS is not only Islamic, it is very Islamic – in the most medieval tradition. Failure to understand the differences between Al-Qaeda and ISIS will lead to serious strategic errors by the United States in combating ISIS.

Think Christians who not only believe, take every word literally but then implement every word – from stoning for adultery to keeping slaves to killing idolaters while preparing for the Apocalypse.

“If al-Qaeda wanted to revive slavery, it never said so. And why would it? Silence on slavery probably reflected strategic thinking, with public sympathies in mind: when the Islamic State began enslaving people, even some of its supporters balked.

Nonetheless, the caliphate has continued to embrace slavery and crucifixion without apology. “We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women,” Adnani, the spokesman, promised in one of his periodic valentines to the West. “If we do not reach that time, then our children and grandchildren will reach it, and they will sell your sons as slaves at the slave market.”

Awaiting the Army of Rome.  Carefully chosen words indeed.

So as Grace Dent said in the Independent: “I’d go as far as to say you shouldn’t be allowed back into the country ever, when surely there are dozens of other bloodier, more depressing places that suit your lifestyle choice better. However, I’ve asked my liberal friends what we should do and they all wring their hands and say after some mumbling, “Nothing.”

So give me a call when you’re bored with all the stoning, crucifying and beheading. I’ll meet you at Heathrow Arrivals with your teddy.”

And these folks haven’t had their pasports revoked yet.  You know.

Like Ed Snowden.



Well yesterday one of the three ISIS fangirls indicated she wants to return to Britain.  Seems she is sitting in a refugee camp in Raqqa, 9 months pregnant and wants to go home.  No questions asked.

“When London teenager Shamima Begum fled Britain with two other schoolgirls in 2015 to join the Islamic State, it shocked a nation. Now, she wants to come home.

Begum, 19, is nine months pregnant and living in a Syrian refugee camp. She says she doesn’t regret leaving Britain but now wants to return to give birth to her child.

“Now all I want to do is come home to Britain,” she said in an extraordinary interview with the Times of London.

Ben Wallace, Britain’s security minister, told the BBC on Thursday that Begum could face prosecution if she returns Britain.

Begum fled to Syria in 2015 when she was only 15 years old. She vanished during Easter break along with Kadiza Sultana and Amira Abase, two other schoolgirls from the Bethnal Green area of east London. The trio traveled from London’s Gatwick Airport to Turkey, and then made their way to Syria.

The case stunned Britain. The young women were bright and came from seemingly stable and happy families. Their fleeing was seen as a warning of the lure the Islamic State could have for young Western women.

Sultana is thought to have died in an airstrike in 2016. The fate of Abase is unknown.

Her father, Hussen Abase, told Sky News on Thursday that the girls had “made a mistake” and should be forgiven.

“I’m not the same silly little 15-year-old schoolgirl who ran away from Bethnal Green four years ago,” Begum said in the interview with the Times.

Begum said that when she arrived in Raqqa, she went to a house for brides-to-be and “applied to marry an English-speaking fighter between 20 and 25 years old.” Within 10 days, she was married to a 27-year-old from the Netherlands. They had two children who died of malnutrition and disease.

She said life in Raqqa was mostly “normal,” although “every now and then there were bombs and stuff.”

She also said that she didn’t regret going to Syria and wasn’t fazed when she saw the severed head of one of the Islamic State’s victims.

“Anthony Loyd, the Times correspondent who tracked Begum down in a refugee camp in northern Syria, cautioned about judging her too quickly. He told the BBC she was a “15-year-old schoolgirl who was groomed and lured to the caliphate, and four years later, with that background, she is an indoctrinated jihadi bride.”

He also said that she “had no regrets, she was calm and composed but she was also in a state of shock — she had just come out of a battlefield, nine months pregnant, many of her friends dead through airstrikes and all the rest of it.”

It is my understanding that the local British tabloids have not looked too kindly on her request for sympathy and understanding.

I will leave it to my British friends to comment.


About toritto

I was born during year four of the reign of Emperor Tiberius Claudius on the outskirts of the empire in Brooklyn. I married my high school sweetheart, the girl I took to the prom and we were together for forty years until her passing in 2004. We had four kids together and buried two together. I had a successful career in Corporate America (never got rich but made a living) and traveled the world. I am currently retired in the Tampa Bay metro area and live alone. One of my daughters is close by and one within a morning’s drive. They call their pops everyday. I try to write poetry (not very well), and about family. Occasionally I will try a historical piece relating to politics. :-)
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6 Responses to Remembering the ISIS Fangirls

  1. beetleypete says:

    I’m a British friend, and happy to comment, Frank.

    She ‘stole’ her sister’s passport to travel to Turkey, without the knowledge of her family. Apparently.
    Like I believe that!
    She married a Dutch-born ISIS fighter, when she was 15. Technically ‘under age’.
    Two children she gave birth to over there both died. Cause unknown.
    Her husband is ‘missing’, believed killed in the fighting.
    She gave birth to a baby boy, in the refugee camp this week.

    Nobody wants her back, except her family, and her lawyers. The government have said they will ‘prevent’ her return. She shows no remorse, still supports ISIS, and still believes in Jihad. Some ‘bleeding hearts’ are taking on her case, claiming that under International Law, she cannot be rendered ‘stateless’, and remains a British Citizen, as does her baby son, born in the camp.
    (This is legally correct, I understand)

    The bottom line is that the UK cannot legally prevent her repatriation to this country. They have said that they will force her to have the baby adopted, because of her radical views. Also that she would be subject to detention and interrogation about her ISIS connections here, and abroad. But they have no real charges to press against her, or any legal reasons to imprison her.

    So, they will let her go. Probably. A potential suicide bomber, (apparently by her own admission) resident in the UK, living on state benefits, with her child taken care of by the state too. This is the sort of lunacy that makes people move to the Far Right. Time to change those laws, and leave her where she is. Where she chose to go, and where she should stay.
    If that seems heartless, then maybe it is. But I have had my fill of this crap.

    Best wishes, Pete.

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  2. toritto says:

    Doesn’t seem heartless to me Pete. She shows no remorse apparently whatsoever. If she were an American I wouldn’t want her back. Regards from warm Florida.


  3. Victor Romanelli says:

    I also heard on the evening news there are American ISIS brides as well. If they are allowed back into the country we need to address the possibility that they could be here to plot attacks. Also the question to ask is “if ISIS wasn’t close to losing their last stronghold, would the brides have still wanted to return?”

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  4. jfwknifton says:

    I would like to see the old charge of “Treason” revived for all of the traitors who went off to help revive the medieval savagery of Islamic State.

    Liked by 1 person

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